Sunday, May 28, 2017

WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF GRAVITY



Our Third Life

Via: Thee Lion

So now you know why I've been pickling and storing my own gravity since the late 80's-C

FORGET FLAT EARTH! The Video that the P.T.B. Doesn't Want You To See! DEEPER THAN FLAT EARTH!



Hoax Busters Call

“People are suckers for a mystery”-Mark Sargent

Everyone who knows that NASA is engaged in fraud also know with about 112% degree of certainty that the earth is actually flat.

Utilizing the same “Truther” (non)logic formula that brought you the “Flat Earth Movement”, we can concoct another great truth…

Since James Cameron is a known director and producer of Hollywood films we can be reasonably assured that his “Deep Sea” missions were fake and CGI. With that fact established we can rampage forward to the inevitable conclusion that, NOWHERE in ANY of the worlds oceans is the water deeper than 100 feet.

Welcome, my friends, to Deep Truth™, a fresh new bowl of conspiracy candy that we can all provide the truths that establish Deep Truth™ though rigorous application of Citizen Science(Assertions, Conjecture, False Dichotomies and LOTS AND LOTS of pure speculation).

Flat Earth was settled once and for all when we figured out the simple formula: NASA Lies = Flat Earth.

Now it’s time for Deep Truth™…
James Cameron Lies = Oceans No Deeper than 100 ft…FACT. Now all that remains is to go out there and find the proof!

“Remember, line barnacles must be accounted for, they’re tricky little bastards, they usually drop off your depth gauge lane when you pull it up.”-Deep Truth™ Facts Book

THIS IS A PARODY OF THE PATHETIC "FLAT EARTH TRUTHER" PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION

Deep Sea - Perfect Dark Music Extended

Again with Jeranism

THE SPYING GAME



Via: John Adams

Thursday, May 25, 2017

Tuesday, May 23, 2017

Hoax Busters-The Mystic Chords of Henry Ford

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


Call No.514





Our acceleration in adaptability to change makes the new and unexpected quickly appear familiar and habitual. So we soon forget the past- an ominous fact at this time, when a thousand crazy novelties press for adoption and the steadying tradition of the past restrains nobody. - William Roscoe Thayer , Historian-1921, Mystic Chords of Memory book by Michael Kammen, Henry Ford, History is Bunk, Science and Progress, Fat Earth Theory, 9/11, No Planes Theory, Sputnik, Cosmonauts, NASA, The Cold War, Communism, Darwinism, Speciation, Pseudoscience, Petrified Wood, Chicago across Lake Michigan, Jerry Lees Cosmology according to Glen Kealey.

Endcap: Jeranism on Jeranism, Flat Earth Caveman Cosmology(youtube), Mark Sargent FAQ, Lenny and his Ducks.



Chat Transcripts

Sunday, May 21, 2017

‘Rare as winning the lottery’: New dinosaur fossil so well-preserved it looks like a statue



Before being assembled into something recognizable at a museum, most dinosaur fossils look to the casual observer like nothing more than common rocks. No one, however, would confuse the over 110 million-year-old nodosaur fossil for a stone.

The fossil, being unveiled today in Canada’s Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology, is so well preserved it looks like a statue.

Even more surprising might be its accidental discovery, as unveiled in the June issue of National Geographic magazine...



LOL!

Continued @ washingtonpost.com

Via: Peter Fugelsang

Saturday, May 20, 2017

John Adams Afternoon Commute

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


Pancake Earth: Flat and gluten free....





The Mystic Chords of Memory book by Michael Kammen, Hypernormalization, Taxes, Rigged Economy, History and Heritage, Progress, Manufactured Culture, Foreign Affairs Magazine, Cold War to Terror, The Parallel Universe, National Ride Your Bike to Work Day, Sustainability, Meat Tax, Carbon Tax, Flat-Earth-Vegan-Gluten-Free-Philadelphia-Eagle-Fan, Flat Earth Gurus and Their Social Engineering Psyop, Boston Bombing Fakery means the earth is flat, 9/11 fakery means the earth is flat, Appollo Fakery mean the earth is flat, Joe Rogan, Shaquille O'Neal, Trump said earth is flat(bogus story), Organic Food, Soy Chorizo, Wheat Chorizo, Spanish Language is Sexist.

Commute Music: by design by Trevor Bastow



John Adams's Recommended Reading List.

Tuesday, May 16, 2017

NASA ISS "Astronaut" Caught Faking Space Uses A Harness During Live Feed With Boise State



Russianvids

Via: questioningourreality.blogspot.com

This new species of dinosaur looks like Zuul from Ghostbusters



"If you're a paleontologist naming a newly discovered species, it's important to know your beloved critter's place in the pecking order. Not all animals—or dinosaurs, even—were masters of their domain. Not everyone can be a Rex. Case in point: Zuul crurivastator, a short-snouted Late Cretaceous dinosaur whose new name translates to "destroyer of shins."

Continued @ popsci.com

Via: Questioning Our Reality

Hoax Busters: Bringing You The Hardest Data and the Dankest Memes.

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


Call No. 512





Trying to Critically Thinking,Flat Earth Theory, Mick West, Joe Rogan, Micro Meteorites,Souther Hemisphere Flights, Check for Yourself H.B.C. Citizen Science Corps Report(submit your data to chris@hoaxbusterscall.com), One Giant Leap of Logic, Chris get really sarcastic, maybe excessively (?), The Girls Got a Gun,Debate and Argument,Shit Talking Trolls, Dinosaurs in the Natural World, Fossil Fuels, Fresh Dino Meat, Viruses, Pharmaceuticals, Hey Kids!Legos are made with Dinosaur Bones(petrol), Chemicals, Paint Huffing for Science, Chemtrails, Cotton Wood Tees, Native Americans, Primitive Cultures, Blight, Land Management, President Actors, Okies, Sod Houses, The Dust Bowl, The Aerospace Industry, California Culture, Charles Phoenix, The Kerrville Folk Festival, The Goat Guy Lawn Mowing, Prairie Dogs,Canada Geese, Dank Memes.

Endcap: 80's Predictive Programming,Putting your child to bed post citizen science revolution of 2025, Howtosurviveanuclearblast.com Ad Sponsored by Hoax Buddy Benefactor, Shelton

H.B.C. Citizen Science Report[hard data]
[sample]frog egg membrane [location]commanche co fairgrounds runoff canal
susistinol level=12%, actigen levels=43%, ketigen=.04 %[ppm-ml]



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H.B.C Citizen Science Corps...

Monday, May 15, 2017

Just look at it, would you?!....


click on image for full resolution

H.B.C. Contributing Correspondent and Citizen Scientist, Nino Teauoneaux snapped this photo of the moon in question with his cell phone camera rigged to a telescope.Good detail visible with some vignetting from the telescope giving it an appealing artsy vibe. Go Science! Nice work, Nino! -C

Tomorrow's World: Home Computer Terminal 20 September 1967 - BBC



BBC




1966 prediction of the home computer

News report from 1981 about the Internet

Via: John Adams

Sunday, May 14, 2017

FAT EARTHER'S AND THEIR DUBIOUS ORIGINS!



"THIS DOES NOT PROVE THE EARTH IS A BALL OR A PIE WITH MOON-BATS... IT DEFINITELY SHOWS PSY-OP... IF FAT EARFERS WANT TO DEBATE PSY-OPS YOU BETTER BRING YOUR LUNCH...THERE IS PLENTY MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM...

Continued @ The Four Horses Asses of the Apocalypse

Avatar fans suicidal because planet Pandora is not real



"Fans of the film have flooded the internet to express their distress at realising they will never be able to visit the utopian planet.

On one website, Avatar Forums, the topic "Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible" has more than 1,000 posts."


Continued @ telegraph.co.uk




Pentagon Plans $7 Million Real Life 'Avatar' Remake

"the Avatar program will develop interfaces and algorithms to enable a soldier to effectively partner with a semi-autonomous bi-pedal machine and allow it to act as the soldier’s surrogate."

Via: Jay Dyer

"semi-autonomous bi-pedal machine"...I vote that they make it beaver-like-C

Joe Rogan Experience #959 Mick West, Metabunk Debunked and the Flat Earth False Dichotomy



Hoax Busters Call

Being aware of the fact the NASA is a fraudulent “scientific” agency DOES NOT make you a believer in Flat Earth cosmology any more than it would make you a believer in Donut Earth Cosmology, Mobius Strip Cosmology, Computer Simulation Cosmology or ANY OTHER cosmology.

It just means that NASA is a fraud and it does not necessarily follow that we actually live inside a giant flat petri dish under a giant glass dome and fake moon projection.

What is the “great awaking” that Flat Earthers proclaim is happening? We are awakening to WHAT exactly? That an advanced alien race built the giant petri dish so they could study us? Giant leaps of logic, that this crowd is demonstrably prone to, certainly could lead them to that conclusion based on what the new flat-earth authorities tell them.

The Flat Earth Movement that erupted on the internet back in 2015 when certain personas emphatically declared…”NASA is lying to us, the earth is actually flat, go check it for yourself”.

Fast forward to the year 2017 and these self-styled citizen scientist or now proclaiming themselves experts on atmospheric lensing and air travel in the slipstream AFTER it became painfully obvious that the matter was not resolved by “check it yourself”…”looks flat, must be flat”.

NOW the Flat Earth gurus explain the “anomalies” of empirical reality by way of speculation and conjectures related to various atmospheric effects and laws of perspective to help explain the fact that, objects in the distance or often times observed to be partially or even wholly obscured by the horizon line.

Point is…it isn’t so simple, is it? “check it for yourself” has now become “let me explain to you how light bends to fool your eye”…”trust me, the flat earth expert because…I’m not NASA”.

Of course, this is where people like Mick West can step up to reinforce belief in scientism by positioning himself at the opposite end of this logically fallacious false dichotomy that has been craftily constructed by way of the fabricated “Flat Earth Truth” Movement.

LOGIC 101:
NASA FAKERY ≠ FLAT EARTH!

GLOBE EARTH ≠ NASA LEGIT!

Oh, one more thing..NASA fakery does not prove, or even so much as suggest that the moon is a hologram, sorry Jeran!-C

Marshall Ships Skylab Mockup to California



Ransomware "Attack" and Mr. Robot Prescriptive Programming



Season 2
In episode 1, Darlene prepares an attack using a variant of Cryptowall, capable of spreading through the network once it has infected a victim. The use of this kind of malware to force E Corp to pay a ransom is simple but effective, especially if we take into account that the company does not have backup copies of many of its records, because they were erased in the attack against Steel Mountain in season 1.

Episode 3 reminded us of the almost inevitable relation between cryptocurrency and cybercrime, since they are used in day-to-day operations of the Dark Web and also to collect the monies that victims of ransomware pay. Ray’s business, Midland City, is an example of the first case: a hidden market where the most obscure things are traded.

The fact that cryptocurrency is decentralized also makes it an element of financial speculation in the series; in episode 11, E Corp plans to impose its E Coin to replace Bitcoin, claiming it could be centralized and offering the government the possibility to monitor transactions through a backdoor, unlike what happens with Bitcoin.

Ransomware Attacks Hits 99 Countries

Ransomware Attack In The Season Premier Of Mr. Robot Probably Could Have Been Stopped By CryptoDrop

Via: John Adams

Saturday, May 13, 2017

HyperNormalisation 2016



crisalist

Interesting limited hangout, partial fakery reveal by Adam Curtis of BBC.-C

H.B.C. Special Report: The Billionaire Boys Club

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


All in the Family...





NOTE: There's some discontinuities due to editing out multiple call drops-C

Bradley Cooper, Boston Bombing, Craft International, Seth Rogan, Jeff Skunk Baxter, Philip Taylor Kramer, Ralph Lauren, Laren Bush, Neil Bush, Chevy Chase, Kathleen Crane, Abigail Folger, John F. Kerry, Jack Valenti, Lyndon Johnson, JFK, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Peter Sarsgaard,Maggie Gyllenhaal,Glora Vanderbilt, Anderson Cooper, Diana Vreeland,Hugh Waldorf Astor, Frank Sinatra, David Mayer de Rothschild.

Intro Music: A Well Respected Man by the Kinks

Outtro Music: The Boys Are Back In Town by The Cardigans



John Adams's Recommended Reading List.

Jesuitism...



Bellarmine College Preparatory is a private, Jesuit, all-male secondary school located in San Jose, California. Founded in 1851, it and Notre Dame High School are the oldest secondary schools in the state. Bellarmine is a Catholic school within the Diocese of San Jose and sponsored by the Society of Jesus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellarmine_College_Preparatory

Jeran Campanella(jeranism), Class of 1998

Let's now examine Jeranisms continuing education...

Majors in Social Science with Emphasis on Global Studies gain durable tools to enrich and empower the global community by promoting social justice. By taking courses in anthropology, cultural geography, economics, history, political science, psychology, and sociology, students become competent to analyse, contextualize, and change global realities. http://www.gavilan.edu/social_sciences/globalstudieshome.html

...In the process, students create link- ages between local and national issues, movements, and ideas as they relate to the rest of the world, and prepare both for a variety of careers and for all-important responsibilities as global citizens...http://www.gavilan.edu/catalog/2013-2015/degrees/Gavilan_Degree_SocSci.pdf

Boy, I just can't help but wonder if maybe they could influence change by performing science denial skit comedy where they illustrate the follies of uncritical thinking and shoddy scientific method applications with the end result being to create a dialectic for scientism endorsers to push against? Just a thought.-C

Via: Mahatma Levolence

Thursday, May 11, 2017

Columbus and the Flat Earth Myth



"How and why did the flat-earth myth get started? The legend entered history when Washington Irving published his three-volume History of the Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus (1828). Irving, best known for “The Legend of Sleepy Hollow” and “Rip Van Winkle,” used his fiction-writing skills to fabricate a supposed confrontation that Columbus had with churchmen who maintained that the Bible taught that the earth was flat. No such encounter ever took place.

Samuel Eliot Morison, a noted Columbus biographer, describes the story by Irving as “misleading and mischievous nonsense, . . . one of the most popular Columbian myths."


Continued @ americanvision.org

Via: John Adams

Jeranism in the Slipstream...



Data from:
MMAB / EMC / NCEP / NWS / NOAA

https://earth.nullschool.net/about.html

This is the authority that Jeranism appealed to to round out our excellent discussion.

Jeranism:(paraphrase) "We know that the moon appears spherical from our observation but don't trust your own eyes, consider what I'm suggesting as possibility,never minding how implausible and counterintuitive it sounds because we know we have been lied to about everything we have been told" Which was basically the core tenet of his discourse.

From that, to...

..."heres some data from MMAB / EMC / NCEP / NWS / NOAA that helps bolster my claim"

MMAB / EMC / NCEP / NWS / NOAA FTW! - Nice job, Jeran!

Oh wait, then's there's this...

Jeranism:(paraphrase)"we know we have a problem coming up with a coherent map"...

Jeranism:(paraphrase)"jet travel in the slipstream can account for the observed flight time discrepancy problem".

OK, then you really wouldn't have a problem with the AE map, would you?

Maybe a lesson that can be learned here is don't drink sweet sweet conspiracy koolaid to the point where you go in to an allegorical diabetic coma.-C

Wednesday, May 10, 2017

No, I really don't think that I am.....



Flat Earth International Conference

Via: Questioning Our Reality


Hmmmm, looks like there are no refunds on the flat earth.

OK, but if you self-identify as a flat earther will you receive extra frequent flyer miles on flights in the Southern Hemisphere?

Behold all of the well spoken photogenic pitch men and ladies that have all the answers for you! Maybe they have a theory as to how they all simultaneously exploded out of nowhere for no apparent reason?-C

Atmospheric Lensing Proves the Curve...Atmospheric Lensing Proves the Plane







The point I was trying to make with Frank, on the most recent Hoax Busters Call is that the refrain of "go check it out for yourself" is not quite as common sense and cut and dry as one would think.

When you dig into to this subject you must accommodate these various optical illusions that you may encounter that potentially distort reality. Mirages are real phenomena, both sides seem to agree on this point. Can you now maybe understand my frustration when I'm encountering flat-earthers that are offering me simplistic catch phrase memes as opposed to actually dealing with these different issues?

Does this atmospheric lensing effect disprove curvature? Can the observed effect possibly coexist with curvature? Do we now dismiss the footage of the sun appearing to get smaller at it sets because Rob Skiva has demonstrated now that we should anticipate the sun appearing bigger as it sets, due to lensing? Can you always observe Chicago from across lake Michigan using a telephoto lens? Is it nearly always invisible as the globalist scientist state in their video? Is that a phenomena that can be accounted by invoking this lensing effect on a flat plane?(invisibility). Are superior mirages acknowledged as real now, since they can now invoke optical illusions in into their observations?

Mr. Skiva points out that the top of the tower he was referring to appeared to be too large and therefore must be because of atmospheric magnification. Is there a reason why he did not also consider the possibility that maybe the device connected to the front of his camera also acts as a lens?(the lens)...


A telephoto lens makes distant objects appear much larger. Image by Brenda Anderson.

http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/telephoto-lenses

Can we really consider ourselves to be honest investigators when we accept evidence that supports our position and then arbitrarily dismiss or ignore the evidence that does not?

Can we regard ourselves as truth seekers and at the same time firmly take positions that we cannot adequately defend with our own words, depend on selected gurus to represent our positions, offer arm chair critique and congratulate ourselves for being open minded and "awake"?

Is there any sense whatsoever to the concept that flat-earth research is going to bring to a new area of "awakened" minds. Would not the first order of business be to undermine NASA's credibility FIRST, with the overly abundant circumstantial evidence of NASA fakery? Would not the world be more receptive to radically new ideas AFTER NASA is exposed, not BEFORE? Huge cart before the horse situation, if you ask me.

-Chris

Tuesday, May 9, 2017

NASA'S FLAT EARTH DBA STRATEGY

"Discredit By Association": the oldest trick in the mind-control book

Dear Cluesforum readers and contributors,

I think it is high time for us to react / address and call out the current, escalating yet all-too-transparent "DBA-strategy" (Discredit By Association) adopted by NASA's propaganda dept - clearly designed for damage control: NASA has by now been roundly exposed as a total fraud - and, of course, they weren't going to just sit back and let a growing number of honest / legitimate grass-root researchers "lead" the fledgling 'NASA truth movement' (for lack of a better term - *sigh*) and tranquilly diffuse their findings to the general public - in any sort of snowballing / or unimpeded fashion.

What NASA has rolled out is a carefully planned and coordinated, 'viral' DBA / co-opting campaign centered on the 'Flat Earth' meme and - I will hastily add - (with respect to those who may honestly entertain alternative cosmic models of their own) this fact should be clear as day to anyone, regardless of whether you reckon we live on a globe, a cube, a pancake or a Wiener würstel. The point being, it is by now painfully obvious that the objective of this NASA-campaign is to associate & equate (in the general public's psyche) anyone questioning NASA to mentally challenged / raving crackpots:

Tim: "Hey, Joe - did you watch that NASA rocket launch last night on TV? Heck - there was 'CGI' written all over it!"

Joe: "Omg, Tim... Taken your meds lately? Duh, I bet you also believe the earth is flat? HA HA HA! "


Continued @ cluesforum.info




Celbritards are on board...

The Short List of Famous People Who Think the Earth Is Flat (Yes, Really)

Oooh, celebrity endorsements! Yeah, that wouldn't be too suspicious would it?

An excellent point that John Adams made in this regard is that the media seems to have no problem drawing attention to this "massive secret" that the controllers have worked so hard to conceal for hundreds of years!

It is noteworthy that being critical of flat-earth guru, Jeranism make me the suspicious one in certain circles.

Flat earth theory prevails by sticking to cults of personality and allowing a pass for whatever fallacious noxious bullshit they want to peddle. Permit him to accuse me of "appealing to authority" when I stated that we can directly observe the tendency for liquids to coalesce into a sphere under certain conditions and at the same time he wants to refer to official NOAA weather maps to support his "planes in the slipstream" claim...criticize me for "shilling for Max Igan" when it was Jeranisms' own video.HA! Your 30ft bias wears christmas lights and runs through the streets with it's head on fire.

No, I'm not going to flatten my brain for the sake of flat-earth, ball-earth skepticism, or whatever the hell you want to call it.

-Chris

Flat Earth: Skull and Bones...



FLAT EARTH... thesis!!!! anti thesis scientism and the synthesis occult paranormal hybrid worshiping grey aliens... hahaha

Via: Nino Teaoneaux

Hoax Busters-Conclusion, You Can't Get There from Here

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


Call No.509





War, Arguments from Authority, Flat Earth, Santiago to Sydney, Frank from Australia, NASA, Globalism, Santiago to Sydney on the Pizza Pie, Jeranism, Eric Dubay, Flat Earth and Other Hot Potatos, Flat Earth Psyop?, Predictive Programming, Logic Discourse, Establishing Truth via Repetitive Assertions, Chris declares himself a globe earth shill, Chris declares himself a flat earth shill, No curve-only lensing, All optical illusions are proof we live on a globe, All optical illusions provide proof that the earth is flat, Nothing regarding any of this can be gleaned by any material that can be obtain via the internet, please disregard the previous call post and the majority of this audio and get a telescope and prove it to yourself.

End Cap: Logan’s Run Trailer,

J Peter Puller(John Adams)-How to Survive a Nuclear Blast Dot Com Sponsored by Hoax Buddy Benefactors: Will Saar, Greg Passmore, Jan Van Gompel, Kelito Brigante.



Chat Transcripts

Saturday, May 6, 2017

Jeranism and Chris Kendall Discuss Flat Earth Theory

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


..."and if you look out the cabin window you'll see New Zeal..uh, never mind. We passed it already..."





Chris Kendall(myself )did a Skype call with Jeran (jeranism) and we spoke a bit about flat earth theory. As far as I’m concerned, the reality of air travel and the time that it takes to get between two points confirms that the earth is a globe.

I have since checked out what Jeran said was what the diameter of the earth would need be if it were indeed flat. From what I gather and I suggest people check it against whatever source they deem reliable, that the diameter would need to be at least 22,000 miles as apposed to Jerans’ 16,000 mile estimate.

That would necessitate Max Igan traveling an additional 15,000 miles(?) in his documented journey from Sydney to Santiago.

Tail wind or no, that’s not happening, in my estimation.

As far as I’m concerned, this baby’s been put to bed. Goodnight!



John Adams's Recommended Reading List.

Report: Man Spends over $32,000 to Become ‘Trans-Species’ Elf



After undergoing the “medically unapproved” eye color-changing surgery, which was performed without anesthesia, Padron was forced to use eye drops and wear black sunglasses to combat the “extreme photosensitivity” side-effects, which he claimed made “even watching stars in the sky” painful for days after the operation.

“I don’t consider this an obsession, but in fantasy you have all of the hope, love, friendship and good feelings,” Padron concluded. “This helps me to feel like a good person but in fantasy you have to be beautiful not only on the inside but the outside too."


breitbart.com

Via: Jay Dyer




This video contains some interesting references to government conferences and
programs that reveal some of the completely unhinged mentally ill qualities of our "leaders".

The "Transhuman Terrorist" threat? Is it real? Um, no. Can it be made to appear real with psychological operation theater starring cosplay crisis actors? Yes, of course it could. The future look like it's going to include a lot more Luis Padrons, a bunch of mutilated mentally ill folks running around pretending they are elves and cyborgs when in reality they are arrested development adolescents playing pretend with permanently affixed halloween costumes.

Will we maybe be able to witness what Elon Musk says is necessary, the "merging of man and machine" a wet wired computer interface directly to the brain? Wikipedia for the brain? Direct access to consensus "facts and figures" that will transform an individual into a "super intelligence"?

Will they also be regarded as "trans-species" because of their undeniable affiliation with parrots?

-Chris

Thursday, May 4, 2017

Call to Ken Miller Regarding Chromosome 2

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


Kenneth Miller





"Kenneth Raymond Miller is an American cell biologist and molecular biologist who is currently Professor of Biology and Royce Family Professor for Teaching Excellence at Brown University."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_R._Miller

I (Chris Kendall) speak with Ken Miller, Professor of Biology at Brown University to speak about, what I was told, is the single greatest piece of evidence for Evolution Theory. From what I gather, chromosome fusion happen regularly but usually not regarded as evolutionarily significant. Also of interest, Mr. Miller was not familiar with the convergent evolution claim in regards to squid bioluminescence trait that is regarded as an example of "convergent evolution".

In Evolutionary Biology, does the right hand know what the left hand is doing? Hmmm...

"Striking" similarity in gene sequencing can be observed in unrelated animal species, as in the case of unrelated squid that both possess the bioluminescence trait, have "strikingly similar" genetic "synteny"and are regarded as examples of convergent evolution, meaning that the similarities are not the result of ancestry yet, in the case of humans, any sequencing we share with the great apes, is regarded as highly significant.

So basically the question is this, why is a given set of observations regarded as significant to make a case for a certain conclusion and yet, in another instance, comfortably accommodates the opposite conclusion?

That's really the question I had for Ken, but failed to wedge it in when he launched into to his human/squid eye comparison dissertation.

"In evolutionary biology, convergent evolution is the process whereby organisms not closely related (not monophyletic), independently evolve similar traits as a result of having to adapt to similar environments or ecological niches."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/convergent_evolution.htm

"Unless there are strong constraints, the probability of complex organs originating multiple times through similar trajectories should be vanishingly small. Here, we report that similar light-producing organs (photophores) evolved separately in two squid species, yet each organ expresses similar genes at comparable levels. Gene expression is so similar that overall expression levels alone can predict organ identity, even in separately evolved traits of squid species separated by tens of millions of years. The striking similarity of expression of hundreds of genes in distinct photophores indicates complex trait evolution may sometimes be more constrained and predictable than expected"
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/44/E4736.full

Another question...How qualified is Ken to make emphatic declarations about DNA, at this point?...

"In fact, the human genome is littered with pseudogenes, gene fragments, "orphaned" genes, "junk" DNA, and so many repeated copies of pointless DNA sequences that it cannot be attributed to anything that resembles intelligent design. If the DNA of a human being or any other organism resembled a carefully constructed computer program, with neatly arranged and logically structured modules, each written to fulfill a specific function, the evidence of intelligent design would be overwhelming. In fact the genome resembles nothing so much as a hodgepodge of borrowed, copied, mutated, and discarded sequences and commands that has been cobbled together by millions of years of trial and error against the relentless test of survival. It works, and it works brilliantly; not because of intelligent design, but because of the great blind power of natural selection to innovate, to test, and to discard what fails in favor of what succeeds. The organisms that remain alive today, ourselves included, are evolution's great successes."
"Life's Grand Design," Technology Review 97, no. 2 (1994): 28-29, by Kenneth R. Miller

"For years, the vast stretches of DNA between our 20,000 or so protein-coding genes" more than 98% of the genetic sequence inside each of our cells" was written off as "junk" DNA. Already falling out of favour in recent years, this concept will now, with Encode's work, be consigned to the history books."

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/sep/05/genes-genome-junk-dna-encode

Yet another question...Why is it that biologist aren't required to be highly conversant in coding?...

http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/03/02/Scientists-successfully-store-computer-files-in-DNA/3341488491956/



John Adams Afternoon Commute

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


Mmmm,styrofoam peanut soufflé...





Vaccines, Left-Right Health Paradigm, LA County Coroner, Special Effects, Consensus Reality, Tucker Carlson, James William Fulbright, Anderson Astor Vanderbilt Cooper, Breast Feeding, Evolution, Freemasonic Science, Social Engineering Alchemy, Culture against man Book by Jules Henry.

Sponsored Ad: Duty Commandos ATDs sponsored by a donation from David Culham

Commute Music: Another Rise, Another Fall by Miami Horror



John Adams's Recommended Reading List.

Wednesday, May 3, 2017

Richard Feynman, Super Genius of Quantum Quackery Fails on Magnetism



77GSlinger

The Sock Puppet Paper...



"The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper; the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined.

[...]

Government agents (and their allies) might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action."


https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585

Tuesday, May 2, 2017

Hoax Busters-Do Fairies Live In The Multiverse?

Hoax Busters: Conspiracy or just Theory? - Live & Recorded Episodes:


Call No. 505





Insomnia, Futureshock book by Alvin Toffler,Science, Scientism, Bill Nye Saves the World, Evolutionism, Consensus Reality, Logical Fallacies, Netflix, Naturalistic Materialism, Dogma, Transexuals, Extraterrestrials, Postmodernism, GMO Rice, Population Problem, DJ Oke, CO2: Planetary Death Gas, Quakwatch, Corn Flakes, Abolitionism, Hair Metal, New Wave, Punk Rock, Katy Perry, Donald Trump, David Crosby sperm donar Melissa Etheridge, Miles Mathis, Transvestigation, Richard Gere, Three Generations, The Staggering Implications of the Multiverse.

Intro Hold Music Snippet:Steel Mill by Al Petty

Intermission Music:Pushin Pedals by Jimmy Day

Endcap: Phillip E. Johnson on Darwinism(Religion), Bill Nye by ToNlit(youtube), The Moon is Essentially Grey by NASA

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Monday, May 1, 2017

Even North Korea’s Combat Sunglasses Are Fake



Most weapons on display in North Korea’s military parades are fake, a military expert has claimed.

Michael Pregend, a former Army intelligence officer in the US, was asked to examine pictures from a parade on April 15 in the capital, Pyongyang. ‘This was more about sending a message than being combat effective,’ he told Fox News. Many of the guns and projectiles appear to be dummies, he said, adding even the ‘flat-face frame’ sunglasses worn by soldiers are not combat ready.

US soldiers wear wraparound ballistic eyewear to protect their eyes from shapnel and projectiles. But he said the glasses worn by soldiers in North Korea would provide little protection.


Continued @ Metro.co.uk

Via: Questioning Our Reality




The two faces of Rumsfeld

2000: director of a company which wins $200m contract to sell nuclear reactors to North Korea
2002: declares North Korea a terrorist state, part of the axis of evil and a target for regime change


Via: Jay Dyer

Snowden must have watched The Rockford Files...



patrioticcamerican

Via: John Adams

Saturday, April 29, 2017

Study: Describing Breastfeeding as ‘Natural’ Is Unethical Because It Reinforces Gender Roles



It’s “ethically inappropriate” for government and medical organizations to describe breastfeeding as “natural” because the term enforces rigid notions about gender roles, claims a new study in Pediatrics.

“Coupling nature with motherhood… can inadvertently support biologically deterministic arguments about the roles of men and women in the family (for example, that women should be the primary caretaker,” the study says.

The study notes that in recent years, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the World Health Organization, and several state departments of health have all promoted breastfeeding over bottle-feeding, using the term “natural.”

“Referencing the ‘natural’ in breastfeeding promotion… may inadvertently endorse a set of values about family life and gender roles, which would be ethically inappropriate,” the study says.


Continued @ heatst.com

"DON'T CALL Breastfeeding Natural??" Tucker Tries To Reason With Crazy Feminist

Via: John Adams

Thursday, April 27, 2017

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Tuesday, April 25, 2017

Bill Nye The Fake Science Guy Uses Earth Day To Promote His New Netflix Series: “Bill Nye Saves The World”



Bill Nye A Pop Performer Kind of Guy Who Claims "Science is Political."

"Bill Nye has never been afraid to speak his mind. His new Netflix series, “Bill Nye Saves the World,” sees the popular scientist and performer tackle a wide range of hot-button issues, from climate change to alternative medicines.

“Science is political,” Nye told Variety. “It has always been political. Just don’t go thinking that politics is the same as partisan. What we have are laws and regulations informed and shaped by laws and facts we discover in nature. But what’s happened the last few years is people have gotten it in their heads that if you just believe something hard enough it’s as good as scientific facts or theories. In science, of course, a theory is something that allows you to make predictions.”


Continued @ aamorris.net

Sunday, April 23, 2017

NASA Fake Everything ...



ToNLiT

The sledge-hammer-to-the-brain approach to fakery vids.-C

Gordon Rattray Taylor: “The Biological Time Bomb” — the remaking of society via eugenics, family planning, and education



Gordon Rattray Taylor’s 1968 book, The Biological Time Bomb, was referenced in the Roe vs. Wade Supreme Court ruling as providing insight on future developments in America. Taylor’s book was released at a time when the term ‘eugenics’ had not yet fallen out of favor. Though he does not explicitly endorse many of the things he details, he implies throughout that they are at least worthy of discussion and conversation. Indeed, he hopes very much that we do.




What seems to be a veiled reference to using contraception to limit the number of black people is found in the opening paragraphs of chapter 2, titled, “Is Sex Necessary?”

The case of contraception is important as a paradigm of what other biological advances may bring. The dual implications — at the personal and the political levels both — look like being a portent of what we shall experience elsewhere.

Contraceptive devices have begun to change the patterns of social behaviour in the west, making pre-marital sexual experience commoner as well as altering the size of families (notably in Catholic areas) and the spacing of children as well as the stage in the mother’s life at which they appear. In addition to the effect on the individual, contraception has created political and demographic problems. By making it possible to control the population explosion, it has created a responsibility to decide on levels, to obtain agreement on an international scale and to find means of inducing people — who may be miserably poor or uneducated, or bound by age-old customs — to adopt the methods which biology has evolved. (pgs 22-23)

Implications of separating sex and marriage…

At the present time, most civilized countries impose on the father of an illegitimate child some obligation to support it. This would seem to be based on two assumptions: first, that the man alone could have avoided conception occurring, and second, that it is the task of the man alone to earn the money on which a household depends. Both assumptions are obsolete. Except perhaps in the case of rape, the conception of an unwanted child is as much the fault of the mother as of the father; and with the advent of ‘morning-after’ contraceptives, there is no longer any justification for illegitimate or unwanted births.

Apart from this, it seems reasonable to expect a further separation between marriage and sexuality. Rightly or wrongly, premarital sexual experience is already common. At least the decision to marry need no longer be based on shotgun procedures, or on conscience or fear of public opinion.

But, with a growing population problem, the state may come to regard the production of unwanted children as a social crime as it ceases to be a moral one. Reliable contraception brings into realistic prospect the possibility of licensing procreation. (page 45)

[…]

… But the ‘pill’ of today is a mere forerunner of the more sophisticated methods of birth-control which are now under development, which will make the regulation of fertility easier and surer and more precise. And at the same time, it is also becoming possible to increase fertility as we as to reduce or abolish it. Thus we are moving out of the phase of crude ‘birth-control’ into a new era for which the term ‘fertility-control’ seems more appropriate. (page 46)

From the conclusion of chapter 2:

[personal issues related to fertility] are of minor significance with the gigantic social problem which birth-control has conjured up: that of deciding at what level we want the world’s population, and that of each country, stabilized. This is generally depicted as a unique problem: the outcome of two chance developments, the power to cut death rates and the power to limit birth rates. Actually it is, as we shall see in later chapters, a paradigm of various similar social problems which biological advance is on the way to creating. People’s reaction to the population problem is an indication of how they may react to these future problems. Many of them try to deny that there is any problem at all.

[… The U.S. National Academy of Sciences produced a study proving that ‘such growth cannot continue indefinitely.’ Against this, the Rand Corporation said that new methods of making food would be created, until the world reached 8 billion people at the end of the century, and then ‘famine and disease or war or all three’ would check our populations. “population grows geometrically, whereas agriculture can only be increased arithmetically.” …]

The mathematician Professor Fred Hoyle has pointed out that Malthus was wrong in assuming that starvation would hold the population at the subsistence level, at which everyone had just enough food to remain alive. The evidence is that population levels decline abruptly, until a new rise starts. He has calculated that such a crash is due in A.D. 2250 when, he thinks, world population will have reached 25,000 m. (from the current 3,000 m.). It will fall to about 2,000 m., and the process will repeat itself every 300 years.

That is, if man fails to take the matter in hand — since, for the first time, he has the knowledge which can prevent or control such increases. Hoyle’s dead-pan figures tells us that 23,000 m. people will die in each cycle. Those who oppose the planning of conception may have such deaths upon their conscience. (pg 54-55)

[…]

The change which we are seeing is the birth of population control as a normal function of government. To decide what is an optimum population level for human happiness and fulfilment is a task which the social sciences have not yet faced up to. The political ambitions of some nations and some religious groups are expressed in the form of a desire to have the largest possible population, or at least a larger one than anyone else. … The day may be approaching when dictators will find their will-to-power best served by having the smallest possible population, provided it is a skilled, intelligent elite.

From chapter 6, “The Genetic Engineers”

The desirability of improving the human stock has long been recognized, and the fear that it could deteriorate in the absence of such a policy is equally ancient. Thus Plato proposed an eugenic programme, putting into the mouth of Socrates the words: ‘In the same way, if we want to prevent the human race from degenerating, we shall take care to encourage union between the better specimens of both sexes, and to limit that of the worse.’ In the ideal city proposed by Campanella at the beginning of the seventeenth century there was even a Ministry of Love. Hitler actually attempted to put a limited eugenic programme into practice, establishing Ordensburgen where selected young SS men of ‘Aryan’ appearance were to live and encouraging ‘Aryan’ maidens to undertake to bear children by them in the interests of the Fatherland.

Man has long had the power to attempt to improve the stock by the methods of the plant and animal breeder, but it has proved difficult to persuade people to mate for eugenic reasons. [New technology, such as contraception and artificial insemination, “could simplify matters.”] Thus it becomes possible to introduce an eugenic policy without interfering in people’s choice of mate or a marital partner. (page 158-159)

The new eugenics (page 173)

Some scientists feel strongly that we should employ these techniques without delay. As the late Herman J. Muller, of Indiana University, one of the earliest workers in the field of genetics, has emphatically said:

The means exist right now of achieving a much greater, speedier and more significant genetic improvement of the population, by the use of selection, than could be effected by the most sophisticated methods of treatment of the genetic material that might be available in the twenty-first century.

Page 174

Eugenics is sometimes regarded as divided into ‘negative eugenics’ and ‘positive eugenics.’

[…]

To discourage people carrying a known defect from transmitting it is clearly desirable. Moreover, if this can be done consistently, the defective gene will, at the end of one generation, vanish from the gene pool.

[…]

page 175

Today sensitive tests for most of these conditions exist, so marriage counselling is feasible. Advice of this kind is no doubt already given by some doctors in civilized countries; but there is no compulsion to take it, and some cases may not come to the doctors’ attention.

[But do we want to discourage an Einstein or a Bach just because they have a defect?… etc]

In asking this question, we have really moved into the area of positive eugenics, since to discourage the propagation of low intelligence is the same as to encourage the propagation of high intelligence.

[…]

According to the doubtless apocryphal story, when the dancer Isadora Duncan proposed to George Bernard Shaw that they should have a baby, arguing, ‘Think of a child with my body and your mind,’ he declined, saying, ‘Ah, but suppose it had my body and your mind!’ The animal or plant breeder can throw away his poor results, but human beings cannot so easily do so.

Until the day of gene surgery, therefore, eugenics must be a hit-and-miss-business. […] Indeed , there are some who believe that[the genetic standard] is currently deteriorating and that the people with poorer heredity are procreating more numerously than those with good heredity. Dr. William Shockley, famous as the inventor of the transistor, believes that this deterioration can be coupled with war and famine as the third great world problem. As we have no means of measuring total heredity, or comparing the value of one trait with another, such a contention is impossible to prove. But if it is true it certainly makes the case for some eugenic policy even stronger.

page 176

[Herman Muller proposes using sperm banks which couples could use, getting advice from geneticists, etc]

It seems reasonable to suppose that a number of progressive people would take advantage of such a facility … They would be motivated as much by the desire of having above-average children (and this is a strong motivation) as by public spirit.

page 177

Today the note is changing from one of advice to one of warning. Lederberg, for instance, fears that decisions may be taken hastily, on the basis of popular approval or disapproval of particular individuals who lend themselves to eugenic or other biological experiments.

However, Dr. Bronowski has pointed out that ‘multiplication of what we choose to call the fit can really have very little effect on the presence of recessives’ — that is, of those genes which only show up when both parents carry them. Long ago, J. B. S. Haldane used the same argument to show that sterilization of the unfit, which was then being advocated, would not in fact eliminate the qualities objected to.

Professor Luria, while discounting the notion that genetics promises either a millennium or enslavement, told fellow biologists two years ago: ‘What we, in anticipation of the remarkable advances that may soon be forthcoming, can do is attempt to create some machinery by which the social implications of our work can be debated rationally and openly, so that any important decision as to its application can be arrived at by an informed and well-advised public. I would not think it premature, for example, for the United Nations as well as the National Academy of Sciences of the United States to establish committees on the genetic direction of human heredity.’

So far, neither organization has shown any signs of taking the hint.

page 178

[…] Lederberg thus offers us a glimpse of a future in which man will control his own evolution in a far more radical way than was even dreamed of until genetic engineering became, anyway, a theoretical possibility. Remote as it may seem now, when even conventional eugenics is still viewed askance, it needs only successful demonstration of such techniques in animal breeding for the question of their application to man to begin to be raised in earnest.

Family plan

The proposition that we should inaugurate genetic policies right away [raises issues that some people, like Muller and his sperm bank idea, skirt over, but others like Kingsley Davis confront head on]

A state or national pedigree board would be required to decide who would be [sperm] donors. The natural desire of most people to bear their own children would lead to bootlegging of spermatozoa and possibly eggs, and, to make the programme work, non-donors — the bulk of the population — would probably have to be sterilized. But perhaps women of good hormonal constitution would be needed to serve as hosts or adoptive mothers to implanted, fertilized eggs. Whether people would learn to accept non-biological children as their own, as fully as they do their biological children, is an unanswered question.

Donors, presumably, would be free to produce biological children and this would make them an elite group. It would be a matter of status to belong and bribery, evasion, and sperm-substitution would occur. The question of whether all couples are equally fit to bring up children would also arise, since the adult (as the psychologists and anthropologists have so forcibly argued) is the product of environment as well as heredity.

page 179

Furthermore, it is difficult to see why the sterilized individuals should be held to monogamy, or even why those adjudged unsuitable to rear children should trouble to maintain any domestic life at all. The family is already being eroded by the intervention of school and state, and this might be its coup de grace.

As Dr. Robert S. Morison of Cornell puts it: ‘Once sex and reproduction are separated, society will have to struggle with … defining the nature of interpersonal relationships which have no long-term social point … [and] seek new ways to ensure reasonable care for infants and children in an emotional atmosphere which lacks biological reinforcement. …’ The language is a bit abstract, but the point is a strong one.

But the fact is, people are very much committed to the maintenance of the family, which remains an important source of emotional rewards and of security. They are unlikely to give voting approval for any plan which threatens to demolish it. As Kingsley Davis says, ‘An effective system of eugenic control would involve profound changes int he very web of relations that organizes and expresses the personal lives of moderns. It would overthrow the existing system of rewards and punishments, the present interpretations of reality, the familiar links between the person and social status.’ And he concludes, as I do, that the introduction of genetic control in the near future, though theoretically possible, is unlikely.

But that is not the whole story. We are faced, as a result of medical progress, with a population explosion the violence of which is still not generally understood. Many believe that new scientific methods of agriculture, including sea-farming and the conversion of inorganic substances like petroleum to protein, will suffice to feed the additional mouths. But even if we leave aside the social consequences of an excessive population density, and the frustrations and disturbances of body-chemistry which result, it is clear that the projected populations cannot be fed. In mid-1967 President Johnson received reports showing that world-wide famines are inevitable before food production can possibly catch up. The question, therefore, of regulating the right to reproduce is certain to arise, quite apart from eugenic considerations.

Today, the idea of licensing procreation still gives rise to merriment or ridicule. Our laws and our morals were evolved in a period when to increase the population was a prime necessity: they go back to the ‘Be fruitful and multiply’ of the Bible. Abortion is both a theological sin and in most countries a legal crime. Birth-control, where it is allowed, is allowed as a matter of private convenience, rarely as a matter of public policy. Marriage is an ‘unlimited franchise to procreate.’

page 180

Meanwhile, we have eliminated many of the forces which selected the strong from the weak, and we are coasting on the genetic selection of the past.

It is virtually certain that this total failure to face the biological realities created by our own scientific advances will cause such disaster that there will be a sudden reversal of policy. And once the right to bear children comes under regulation, the use of those powers to improve the genetic stock rather than to degrade it could follow relatively easily. […] In short, it must be concluded that, sooner or later, genetic regulation will be adopted.

This does not mean that it will be adopted in Britain, the U.S.A. or even in Western Europe or the Commonwealth. It seems more likely that some eastern country will be the first to try the experiment — it might well be China. If it is seen to bestow advantages, the countries which are slow to make social experiments may be driven to follow.

Taylor ends with warnings about retributions against scientists themselves. On page 221 he admits that biologists do not say in public what they really think, reserving their views for closed meetings or expressed in highly technical language. He fears, even, that citizens and their elected representatives will become as children, and democracy itself will not be up to the task. (page 221)

Perhaps, he contemplates, there are some things better left unknown.

On page 226 he writes, “If the biological revolution is allowed to develop unsupervised it will create social conditions causing just as much misery in the twentieth century, which later generations will have to struggle to undo –if there are any later generations, and if they have the needed resources.” He fears the creation of “biological slums.”

On page 228 he refers approvingly to “the Delphi technique developed by the Rand Corporation” ” to reduce errors and biases and to refine their forecasts.”

He closes with remarks on social engineering and a consumer society.

Via: John Adams

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